Mr. Zeuz, Wuonh Kuon (45) and his wife Leiz, Muangz Seng (51) | From: Hueiv Na’Ngiuv, Thailand with 10-12 in congregation |Occupation: Farmers
“Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.” – Matthew 7: 24-27 (NIV)
How We Meet
One day on a hunting trip walking through the mountains, I saw a hut from afar. As I got closer, I heard laughter. I peeked into the hut and saw a Muangz and her friends. I instantly fell in love with Muangz. We have four boys and been married for 31 years.
Muangz: “My father left my mother when I was very young. She was an opium addict and wasn’t able to take care of my brother and I. When I saw him, he was handsome. My mother approved and I was very happy to marry Wuonh”.
Witness to the Miracle
When I was younger, my older sister-in-law offered a goat as a sacrifice to our ancestors in a Taoist ceremonial to atone for their sins. After the ceremony she decided not to kill the goat and let it go. The goat ran for his life and trampled over her son, Gauv Tim. He went into shock and became crippled. He could not walk for years. He only knew how to crawl. Years later, the white men came into our village, surrounded Gauv Tim, held onto his hands and legs, and prayed over him. It was God’s grace and a miracle, Gauv Tim got up on his legs and walked. Praise the Lord, I was a believer then. I never knew who God was until that day, God showed me his Gloriousness! I told my husband then that I was going to become a Christian.
Muangz insisted we become believers. It was hard for me as I was considered one of the Shaman. At that time, I really didn’t understand what the Gospel was. That was the first time I heard of Jesus. I was afraid that if we became believers, there would be problems and if there were problems, I would not know who to call for help. In my village, no one I knew was a believer in Christ. I only knew of one Mien person that was a believer but he was from Northern Thailand in Chiang Rai, too far for me to travel and ask for help.
Challenges in Our Marriage
I was selfish, didn’t think of anyone but myself. I was an alcoholic, gambler, had anger issues, and used drugs. I didn’t care much for my wife or family at the time. I had affairs with other women and left Muangz home with the children taking care of everything while I was out having fun. It seemed as if I had committed every possible sin a husband could commit. I am truly ashamed of it. I was a horrible husband, was caught up in adulteress behaviors, and didn’t know how to get out of it. Honestly. I wasn’t able to show her or share with her all my love. The most challenging times in our relationship was when I left Muangz with my children for another woman. I was with this other woman for years until she was deported to Laos. I even thought about moving to Laos. Praise the Lord and my beautiful wife that she still loved me through all of our challenges. I don’t know what I would’ve done. I know now that this is God’s chosen partner for me in this life and nothing can separate us because God won’t allow it. Scripture says:
“For this reason, a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh. So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has joined together, let no one separate”. -Matthew 19:5-6 (NIV)
While he was gone, I still had to make a living. I was picking cottons for a living then. I carried one child in front and another on my back while I was picking cottons. I would fill up a rice bag of cottons for a few bhat only. But it was better than nothing. Even though he had left, I didn’t say much. It just hurt too much for me to. It was hard for me to do anything or concentrate on anything else. There were days were I felt so angry, I didn’t want to exist. He continued to go and I couldn’t stop him. I just stayed home and took care of my kids. When he would come back home, we would go pick cottons together as a family but he would wander somewhere else and not help watch the children. When it was time for lunch, he would come over and eat. There were times when I had forgotten to bring hot sauce. He would yell at me saying that I was so stupid to forget it. There’s just no words to describe how hurtful it was. When the pain in my heart became too unbearable, I started to speak up. Telling him to stop going and then eventually tried to stop him from leaving. He began to become very violent. There is no pain much greater than having the person you love the most say horrible things about you and then becoming abusive towards you. I wanted to die so many times. I even went to Wuonh’s mother to ask if there was something she could say to him. Wuonh’s mother would tell me that that it was my fault, that I wasn’t being obedient. Those words I cannot forget because it pierced through my heart”.
I was drunk and high on pills. My friend was driving me home after a night of partying. On the way home, our motorcycle flipped over as we were going downhill on a dirt road. I woke up the next morning finding myself in the hospital. I was informed that my friend was tossed down the hill into the canal and I went with the motorcycle while it flew up into the air and landed on a tree. I was hanging upside down on the motorcycle. I could’ve died then. Miraculously, my friend and I came out of the accident with just a few bruises, a couple fractured bones, and a nose reconstruction.
After many years of living the old way of life, I felt I needed a change. I became so tired and not understanding the reasons. I decided to call my son who lived in Bangkok who was a salesman to see if we could go visit him for a few days. He was happy to have us and we helped him sell stuff. While helping out on the streets, these pamphlets were on the ground everywhere and there were hundreds of them about the size of my palm. I remember stepping on them as we were working. One flew by and landed on me. I picked it up and started reading it. As I was reading the pamphlet, that moment I understood. I understood that Jesus can save us. Thinking back, when the white missionaries came. I didn’t understand what they were or why they came but, at that moment it all made sense.
God Showed Us His Love
During that time, we really wanted to convert but was so afraid because we didn’t know anything and did not have a nearby church to go to. Our great Auntie lost her husband and was very depressed so she asked the Hmong people in the village to help convert her to Christ. She was the first Mien in our village to announce that she was a Jesus believer. My wife and I decided that if our great Auntie will have happiness and can live peacefully, we will also convert. We took her as an example to see what Jesus would do in her life. We saw how God gave her love, peace, and comforted her in those days.
Once we accepted Christ, we faced many trials in our life. My father disowned me, I still had temptations to read the Shaman books, and my youngest son was in a horrible motorcycle accident and broke his leg. I became discouraged asking questions to God, why was I going through this? Where was God? Why isn’t God helping? Why would He allow this to happen? This made me very angry and wanted some answers. When we heard there was a conference in Chiang Mai, I didn’t feel like going because I was so discouraged. The next year, I knew I wanted to attend because Muangz and I disagree on so many things in life and we had gone through so much in our earlier years together. I knew we had lots to work out.
When we first attended the conference, I felt full of encouragement. This is our third time attending the Marriage Conferences. This conference helps us understand each other. Learn to know how to respect and forgive each other. I mentioned before I had anger issues and can become violent at times. I wasn’t a patient man at all. After the first time attending the marriage conference, I learned to have self-control. There were so many times when I wanted to argue with Muangz but didn’t. This conference taught us that self-control begins with each of us. We also learned that as partners in life, we need to do things that are pleasing to God.
Most importantly, we learned what our role as Godly parents looked like from these conferences. In my earlier years, I never had patience to take care of my children. In fact, I never knew how to raise my children. After the conference, I realized that I did wrong. I am so hurt because of these conferences. I hurt not for me but, for the people I hurt. The teachings in the conference made me realize that for so many years, what I had put my family through. I apologized to my wife and asked for her forgiveness. We wept and held each other. All the struggles and pain we faced in our earlier years seemed so small compared to the feeling of love, forgiveness, and happiness at that moment. This year’s conference teaches us to build a firm foundation in Christ. We intend to apply the teachings in our lives. As scripture says,
“So this is what the Sovereign Lord says: See, I lay a stone in Zion, a tested stone, a precious cornerstone for a sure foundation; the one who relies on it will never be stricken with panic.” - Isaiah 28:16 (NIV)
Every time I attend, I always learn something new. Without the scholarships from brothers and sisters, we would not have been able to learn how to be better partners and understand our role as parents in Christ. We do not get to hear these types of teachings in our church, we really depend on this conference. We would like it more often if possible. We are eager to learn to become closer to God. I truly can say that I am still learning and seeking on how to become that Godly Man God wants me to be for my family. Thank you so much for these conferences and allowing the opportunity for us to attend.
We would like to ask our brothers and sisters to please help pray for our congregation. We would like to have a Pastor in our village to lead us. Without a Pastor leading us, we are afraid that some may lose faith. There are more couples in our village that can benefit from these kinds of teachings. Please help pray for my children and parents that they will come to know Christ soon. I pray that soon their eyes will be wide open to see Jesus’s love for them. Please pray that this conference continues and will have many supporters and sponsors to host the 2018 conference. Hope that we will have the opportunity to attend the next conference soon to learn more.
Yauz-Baaux Leiz (34) and wife, Laai Cing (37) | Nah-Waaih Church (Lingh Ngongh Jiu-Bang) in Nguyen Binh, Cao Bang, Vietnam | Occupation: Pastor (Yauz) and (Laai) Lead women’s ministry with 205 in congregation
“Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.” - Ephesians 5:26-28 (NIV)
I came home one day and my grandparents said you are getting married. The first time I saw my wife was on our wedding day, I was only 12 years old. My wife ran away twice after we got married. Her parents brought her back to me against her will. For several years during the beginning of our marriage, I had gambling problems and was unfaithful to Laai. My family bought Laai with two silver bracelet, a silver necklace, and a silver bar strap. I stole Laai’s strap and gambled her keepsake away. During those times, I was comparing Laai with other women. I didn’t sleep with Lai on the same bed for years.
Laai: “As a bought wife, I had no choice. I was told to live with his family because my parents said that they seem to be wealthy, they had land for farming. I didn’t want to go but had to obey my parents. At that time, I couldn’t say no. I didn’t have very high expectations of him being a good husband. Yao didn’t start showing characters of a husband until about two years into our marriage when he started going farming with me.”
Prior to becoming a Christian, we heard sermons in Vietnamese that the world would end in Y2K. Stating, “Anyone who are non-Christians will not enter God’s Kingdom”. I heard the Gospel but did not understand it. I knew at the time, I wanted to go to Heaven but I chose to accept. Blessed is the Lord, He is merciful. Jesus found another way to allow not just me but Lai to hear him again. About a year and a half later I heard a similar sermon through the radio and Lai heard from others that if we convert, there is someone that can heal us from all of our pains and sufferings without needing to do any of the Taoist ceremonies. After hearing this, our entire family converted. We were fearful of Jesus but still not fully understanding who Jesus was.
For the first two years, we walked two hours one way every week to a brother’s house to hear the Word of God. The local authorities noticed we were doing this and became very suppressing. We stopped going to the brother’s house but we continued to learn by ourselves and decided to attend Seminary School. I am now a Pastor at my village.
I have not attended this types of conference before. I really wanted to understand more of what my marriage could be. This conference taught us how to show love to each other. God revealed to me that my wife was the most beautiful person in the world and no one in this world can compare. She really loves me. I have to admit, this is the first time, I said, “I love you” to Lai. The message and this conference is really powerful. I read it in the Bible but didn’t really know how to live it. This conference helps me understand how I can live it with my wife. Lai supports me and does everything for our family. I truly love her. We look forward to setting an example for others to see in our village. It was so worth the motorcycle ride for eight hours and three and a half hours to airplane ride to Chiang Rai, Thailand.
Laai: “Since my husband started working for God, I had no worries that he will be unfaithful to me. I love Yauz-Baaux because he is a man of God and helps me do the things I don’t know or can’t do”.
Pray that our children will come to Christ and eventually will do God’s work. Allow us to be used by God and to love each other even more.
Liouh, Yauz-Nguenc (83) and wife, Meix Fin (74) | Faangc Church in Chiang Rai, Thailand with 50 in congregation | Occupation: Retired
“Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.” - Matthew 5: 3-4 (NIV)
Our parents arranged our marriage when we were teenagers. I was the only child in my family. I remember walking two hours on the day of my weeding to get to Yauz-Nguenc’s village. The first time Yauz-Nguenc saw me, he said I was beautiful. However, things changed throughout the years. Slowly Yauz-Nguenc became an alcoholic, go out often, became abusive, and was very jealous. He was just so mean to me. I couldn’t have children of my own so I adopted six children, three have passed away. There were so many challenges in our marriage, it’s hard to tell every single one. But the most hurtful was when he would leave the children and me. For many years, I would have to farm, cook, clean, and do everything myself. It was not easy. Yauz-Nguenc would be out with his friends or too drunk to wake up and help, and if he was awake, he was so mean. I am more of the talkative type and like to smile a lot. Yauz-Nguenc would be so upset with me if he thought I talked a little too much. It was hard for me but I bit my tongue and shut my mouth. During this time, I was searching for something to help give me strength. I started worshiping Buddhist Goddess. I remember believing in that for a few years. It became too much to keep up with because of certain times for prayers and I would have to burn incense. The incense cost money and eventually I decided to stop that.
Years later, I heard Jesus can save lives. I felt a sense of powerlessness in myself and heard that Jesus can help. I came to Him and Yauz followed me. We became believers in Christ and starting going to Church.
Yauz-Nquenc: “I have no credibility but my wife does. Her heart is so beautiful. God has given us peace in our hearts since we became believers.”
We come to this conference because these conferences help us understand how we should love each other. We still want to work on our marriage. I have become paralyzed on my right side, I cannot cook, clean, or do much at home anymore. Yauz-Nquenc is the one now that is doing all the cooking, cleaning, and he is helping to take care of me. So this conference helps us understand how to take care of each other and be there for each other. We hold hands and Yauz-Nquenc has learned through these conferences to be a forgiving man of Christ. I get 700 bhat and Yao gets 800 bhat a month but we know how valuable these conferences are. We saved all year so that we can be here. We rode two hours in the coach bus, two hours in taxi, and an hour on the back of the truck for a total of five hours so we don’t’ miss out on this. We are going to start encouraging the younger couples to attend. These conferences are very valuable and we would like this if possible to be more often and if it could be in Chiang Rai, Thailand.
Pray that our children will come to Christ. Give each of us strength to do our everyday work. Also help our marriage become stronger.
Dangc, Yunh Hiang (33) and wife, Naix Linh (34) | Bao Lierm Cao Bang, Vietnam | Occupation: Pastor with 113 in congregation
“Then Jesus went home, but again a large crowd gathered there. There were so many people that he and his followers could not eat. His family heard about all these things. They went to get him because people said he was crazy.” - Mark 3:20-21 (ERV)
When I was 15 years old, my parents were looking for me to marry. My parents looked at the Taoist book and saw that Naix and I matched as a couple. We were told to get married, we didn’t want to be with each other. I had someone else. I left Naix after we got married to go with my girlfriend. A couple years later, I eventually broke up with the other women. During this time, I hated Christians. I hated hearing about Jesus because I was practicing to becoming a Shaman. I thought that if we believed in Jesus, we would fly away and die.
In April of 1998, lots of people in my village became Christians. All because of this “Crazy person” who had no name. The crazy person said, everyone must believe in Jesus, if not, they will agonize on the last days. He spoke many things about salvation and would perform miracles. Whatever he prophesized would happened. Many people heard of this person and would come see him. The crazy person would call out each person’s sin and the individuals would confess their sins and became believers of Christ instantly. This crazy person was known to be illiterate but from time to time, he would write songs and proclaimed it was from the Lord and read it out loud. This was unheard of. All the people in the village became believers.
After hearing this, my father came to see this crazy person. My father converted as soon as he got home, he became very ill and went into shock. There was a brother who lived an hour away came to our home prayed over my father and my father was immediately healed. My entire family converted and believed in Jesus. We were the first ones in our village to become Christians. As new believers, we didn’t know how to pray. The brother that helped convert us told us to pray every time we go anywhere or do anything. We heard him say, “Amen” and didn’t know what Amen meant. So we just said Amen every time we went anywhere or do anything.
We had no resources at the time except the Bible to follow Jesus with. A few years later, we got a cassette full of worship songs and using this to worship God. We started to understand how to read and write Mien with this. We had no way of copying the cassette and would hand write every song so that we can learn the words. When we had the opportunity to go to the city, we would make a few more copies to give out. The local authorities started noticing that we were worshiping God and tried to stop us. At first, we would worship in the early morning, then we changed it to late evening, and finally when they started giving us more problems we moved into the cave about an hour away from our village. We would have a couple people watching for outsiders while the rest worships. Now, the local authorities are more open to let us gather in our village to praise and worship God.
After attending Seminary School and learning about Jesus, I realized that I needed to respect my wife. I also realized that Jesus uses the most unqualified person to bring others to Him. Just like the crazy person in the village who did many miraculous things. In Jesus time, people thought Jesus was a crazy person but He was and is the Son of God.
Naix: “My husband’s behavior started changing when he started attending Seminary School. We started communicating more”.
We rode on the motorcycle for about 12 hours to get to the airport in Hanoi, Vietnam. Flew in the airplane for about three and a half hours to get to Chiang Rai, Thailand. Naix didn’t want to come because she is shy. However, I see that there are so many couples having problems and not working together to follow Christ and I didn’t want that for my marriage. After attending this conference, it allowed me to understand how to be a loving husband and how to show Naix that I love her. After this conference I said, “I love you” to my Naix for the first time. I learned ways to have a more meaningful marriage. I really want this type of conference in Vietnam. To let all old and young know what marriage in Christ looks like. We really want this conference to be held in Vietnam and will do whatever we can to support this conference. I know that others can benefit from it. There are too many couples separating, having affairs, and losing faith.
Naix: “I learned how I can be a good wife for my husband by supporting in him and working with him side by side to do God’s work”.
Please help pray that there will be a conference like this one in our country. The leaders and Pastors are becoming lukewarm and not invested whole heartedly in Christ. Many are getting discouraged and losing faith. They are moving towards finding jobs in the city and leaving their church and villages. Please send teachers or Pastors that have deep knowledge of the Word to teach and help us grow in our faith. Please also pray for our children that they follow Christ and that my wife can learn to write Mien quickly and start serving in the Lord. Pray that God will give us a church in our village. Pray that my father will stop drinking.
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